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检查我们的海洋皮划艇旅行和水上运动个人装备---救生衣 干衣 湿衣 鞋子
 
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检查我们的海洋皮划艇旅行和水上运动个人装备---救生衣 干衣 湿衣 鞋子







SWIFTWATER RESCUE PPE
2015-04-12 国际搜救教练联盟 IRIA国际搜救教练联盟

最近一些救援队朋友听完讲座开始注重水域个人PPE了,很多人问我差别在哪里?

水域给救援人员造成许多危险,它是一个动态环境,一个小失误或错误判断都可能演变成灾难。在过去的几年里,美国三分之一的溺亡者是准救援人员,他们中的许多人即没有经过适当的训练,也缺乏装备。因此,对救援队来说,最最重要的是,不仅要购买专用装备,也要在水域或激流中进行训练和实践。

NFPA 1670 《技术搜救事件用培训和操作标准》将水域救援训练概括为三个级别:意识、操作和技术。因此,在购买装备前,要先确定希望达到的训练级别,因为不同级别的训练需要不同的装备。

一、装备等级:

1、意识级别:意识级别的训练是专为最小限度接触水域或激流的机构和救援人员而设计的。这个级别训练要求通常为8h。意识级别的救援人员不用人水,但在水面附近进行施救。最低装备要求为:头盔;个人漂浮装置(PFD);专用鞋;抛投袋。

2、操作级别:操作级别的训练是专为协助水中救援的机构和救援人员而设计,他们偶尔可能需要游泳。这个级别训练要求通常为16 h。最低装备要求为:头盔;个人漂浮装置;潜水(防寒)服;专用鞋;抛投袋。

3、技术级别:技术级别的训练是专为水中救援的机构和救援人员而设计的,他们需要游泳或使用救生船。这个级别训练要求通常为24 h的激流训练和34h的绳索训练。最低装备要求为:头盔;个人漂浮装置;潜水(防寒)服;手套;专用鞋;抛投袋。

二、选择正确的装备:

1、个人漂浮装备(Personal Flotation Devices,PFDs):

美国海岸警卫队为个人漂浮装备制订了标准。最为重要的是,所选个人漂浮装备要专为水域或激流救援使用,一般是三型或五型,可以保证更大的浮力。穿在救援队员身上的个人漂浮装备应该舒适合身,可调节。常用的测试方法就是提拉肩带,如果个人漂浮装备拉起了躯干,而且盖住了救援队员的下巴,那么就应被拉紧。

水域或激流救援技术人员应该考虑购买救援用个人漂浮装备。这些个人漂浮装备都带一个快速释放安全带(五型),保证救援人员带着绳索进行游泳,但必须要谨慎。带着绳索游泳要求进行这样的训练。如果你们没有技术级别的救援人员,就不要购买救援用个人漂浮装备。这样可以防止滥用安全带。

所有个人漂浮装备都应该附带一个哨子和刀具,注意所购买的个人漂浮装备不要有太多的口袋。虽然他们在救援行动中可能很方便,但在水里它们往往会成为一种羁绊。

2、头盔:

许多制造商都生产水上运动头盔,这些头盔各有所长,也各有所短。选择头盔最重要的因素是舒适。带着不舒服的头盔最后只好被解开或摘掉。不管怎样,都无法发挥作用。

考虑完舒适度之后,要考虑头盔覆盖范围。从盖住整个面部的到过耳部的,头盔的样式各不相同。最重要的覆盖部位之一就是前额,很多头盔会向后倾,露出前额。这在湍急的水流中是不能接受的。

最后要考虑头盔里的帽衬是否与头盔相吻合。在许多国家,救援发生在春季水动之时,气温在1-49℃之间,所以在这样的救援中保温是必要的。为适应这一点很多头盔都可以在里面更换内衬。

消防帽与不戴帽之间作选择时,绝对要选择不戴帽,因为会安全些。消防帽是专门为火场情境所设计,因此相当适合在火场使用,但是在水域搜救时,消防帽的主要功能立刻英雄无用武之地,特别是人的颈椎相当脆弱,过重且不透水的消防帽在强力水流推拉下,立刻增加数倍力量,那将会伤害穿戴者的安全。

3、潜水服(防寒服):

这里只有两种选择:湿式潜水服(防寒服)或干式潜水服(防寒服)。

(1)湿式潜水服(防寒服):其优点是相对便宜;可以提供磨损和冲击保护;在水中可以保温;相对舒适;经久耐用。不足之处是出水后不能提供有效的保暖;有拘束感并增加游泳的困难。

(2)干式潜水服(防寒服):其优点是无论在水中还是出水后都有很好的保温性;游泳时没有拘束感;提供身体的物质隔离(污染水域);除手和头部外,全身覆盖。不足之处是价格昂贵;颈部和手腕的橡胶密合垫不舒服;不提供撞击和磨损保护;可以撕破,因而在水中失效。

对在冷水中施救的救援队来说,这项决定相当的简单。干式潜水服(防寒服)可以提供最大限度保暖及污染水域隔离。

4、手套:

简单的合成橡胶手套将保护双手避免被绳索擦伤,并保暖。避免使用其他材料。

5、鞋:

鞋是水域或激流救援装备中最容易被忽视的,而且可能是最重要的组成部分,大多数伤情发生在河上,在岸上松散、凹凸不平的岩石上,而不是在水中。所以救援队伍所有成员都应该穿合适的鞋。

6、抛投袋:

抛投袋有不同的形状和大小,可由许多不同的材料制成。

救援队用的绳索最大长度应在20一30 m之间。如果考虑购买更昂贵的低张力绳索,救援人员就可以在必要的时候将绳索用作拉伸工具。技术级别的救援人员应该考虑可以系在腰部的腰袋,这样救援人员在游泳的同时就可以用这个腰袋运送东西。

三、备注:


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上述图表是国际标准救生衣ISO/CE的标准。根据IRIA国际搜救教练联盟规范,搜救人员PFD必须有24lbs以上,换算ISO规范约为100N。

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上述图表是U.S. Coast Guard關於個人浮具(Personal Flotation Devices,PFDs)之規定,為符合USCG規定每艘船上人員必須有1件USCG認證之TypeI、II、III,或V型救生衣,USCG認證有五種Type1型救生衣及其他4型個人浮具,各型使用規定:
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(一)商船上使用:

第一型TYPE I離岸救生衣OFF-SHORE(LIFE JACKETS):最適於所有水域、開放水域,惡劣海況,遠洋,獲救援較慢水域,商船棄船使用。分有SOLAS工作海域及US工作海域。

(二)娛樂船舶及水域活動使用:

1.第一型外可使用。

2.第二型:近海浮力背心NEAR - SHORE(BUOYANT VESTS),使用於平靜水域、內海湖泊、快速救援水域。

3.第三型:浮具FLOTATION AIDS,適用特殊活動如滑水、狩獵、釣魚、划船、獨木舟、平靜水域、內陸湖泊,有快速救援水域等。

4.第四型:救生圈等可拋擲浮具。

5.第五型:特殊裝備,適用於特別需求。複合型浮具。獨木舟及印第安舟背心、帆船甲板背心、甲板背心、商船工作背心、商用激流背心、救援人員背心、執法人員浮具。


上述希望各救援单位须知。

至于X宝所卖的某件PFD,大家不要再问我可不可以用了,已经有救援弟兄买了,发来的救生衣标示如下:

[img]http://mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz/beFkqRYrYPm6joUodDhKrYdgFW1iblVwrVglkYPje4OeW7eFPgNaiaibevWkdgQ8ibMiaT80qOpdaUpzvgkIqEWNhibg/640?wxfrom=5&wx_lazy=1[/img]
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救生衣标示EN ISO 12402-5,上面已经说了很多了,50N是什么请大家自己对照,而且人家上面英文也跟你标了 They do not guarantee rescue,其他的英文自己看清楚,我就不阐述了。

kurtyang04 于 2015-08-26 00:15:06 编辑
 
旧帖 2015-08-14 01:35:43
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旧帖 2015-08-14 02:36:21
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kurtyang04 离线 kurtyang04 首先说最重要的个人服饰装备:救生衣


海洋国际超一流牌子:Kokatat  (MSFIT, BAHIA, OUTFIT系列)

其他一流:NRS, MTI, Astral, extrasport

除了样式 大小 外,其他非常重要指标:

1浮力 对海洋,13斤,65N 以上是必须
2 合身
3 口袋,海洋舟需要的口袋蛮多,尤其长途探险



我个人认为,在不少情况下,如果不妨碍划船,天气较冷时, 俩件救生衣也许更安全,待测试。

海洋救生衣北美价格高端在100-150刀之间,比激流救生衣稍便宜些。
kurtyang04 于 2015-08-14 23:33:35 编辑
 
旧帖 2015-08-18 14:08:33
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markka123456 离线 markka123456 救生衣前面口袋多的话会不会影响爬艇啊

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旧帖 2015-08-18 23:47:38
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kurtyang04 离线 kurtyang04
markka123456 wrote:
救生衣前面口袋多的话会不会影响爬艇啊


测试没问题,口袋很多都是装救命东西。
 
旧帖 2015-08-21 03:24:12
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Re: 检查我们的海洋装备---国际搜救教练联盟SWIFTWATER R ...
 
kurtyang04 离线 kurtyang04 海洋救生衣有史以来,最好的系列属于 Kokatat MSFIT, BAHIA, OUTFIT,  MSFIT 是K牌的最早出名系列, BAHIA, OUTFIT是根据M改造的产品,MSFIT本来给女士设计,因为特别成功,也成了男士的头号系列。横扫所有大商店的销量和点评。

请看Paddling.net 的评语,可惜国内没有大名牌K的代理商
01-02-2014
Submitted by: cward32001
Rating: 10 of 10

     Needed a new PFD, had my eye on the Kokatat Outfit Tour, Astral Sea Wolf with mild consideration for the MsFit Tour (women's version of Outfit Tour). What can I say, I am a big guy at 6'1, 230lbs and the thought of donning a woman's vest was let's say at least not what I was yearning for. Went to the store and tried the mens Outfit Tour and reluctantly the "womens" MsFit Tour. Both fit well, but there was no question the MsFit Tour was just more comfortable. It seems a little shorter in the torso and when worn with a tow belt it is perfect for me.
The biggest struggle I had was getting past the fact that it was a woman's jacket. So I tried the two jackets on and off over and over again. I think this was just to get myself emotionally comfortable that I was going to walk out of that store with a woman's life jacket. In the end the facts won out. This jacket just fit me exceptionally well. I did Look at Astral Sea Wolf but I didn't even put it on because I had a criteria of 2 lash tabs. I carry a strobe on the back shoulder and a knife on the front.

I have used the jacket a number of times and absolutely love it. Plenty of pockets. Lots of small d-rings in the pockets. One of my other criteria was the ability to store my VHF where it was easy to get to. I previously kept it in day hatch but really wanted it on my person. This vest fit the bill. The VHF easily fits in the front pocket and the antenna sticks out through the top. The pocket is stretchy so the it holds the VHF snug and it is not flopping around. I was a little worried about the side pocket placements interfering with my arms while paddling. The Outfit pockets are more to the front than the side. It turned out not to be an issue for me. I bought an XL and with a dry suit on it still has room.

All kidding aside about it being a womans PFD, this thing is fantastic, and I would highly recommend it to any male paddler.
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07-25-2013
Submitted by: Sheila B.
Rating: 10 of 10

     I am 5'9", average weight, and find this pfd to be the most comfortable pfd I have ever worn. It does not ride up during rescues and allows for freedom of arm movement after hours on the open ocean. I highly recommend it.
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07-24-2013
Submitted by: domin1la
Rating: 10 of 10

     I've owned a MsFit Tour PFD for five years and use it for coastal kayaking on the Great Lakes. This PFD has excellent pocket space that stays out of the way for strokes and rescues. The front of the PFD stays down, away from my chin and the arm holes are nice and big. I especially like the VHF radio pocket that gives me easy access to my radio. The short length fits my torso and doesn't get in the way of my kayak deck.
In the newest version, Kokatat moved the placement for the knife attachment and protected it with a flap - excellent change so the end of a knife doesn't get in the way during scramble re-entries. Kokatat also makes a hydration pocket that easily attaches on the back of the PFD. I can hardly wait for my current model to wear out so I can justify getting the newest version!
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09-07-2012
Submitted by: northnest6
Rating: 9 of 10

     Great PFD. Kokatat did a great job with this one. My only comment is that it is very hot in tropical climates, otherwise I would give it a 10.
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11-30-2011
Submitted by: ---
Rating: 10 of 10

     Just like everything I have ever had from Kokatat, it's a winner.
I bought the men's version of this life jacket with the hydration back pack. Both are amazing. The pfd is very comfortable has an amazing about of useful pockets. It is very well made with high quality reflective tape, knife protection, secret like pockets. It can be adjusted very tight which is a requirement for any pfd I use. It has clips that can be used to secure it with out closing the zipper. This means you can cool off easier, and secure it before you zip it up.
Basically its the best pfd you will find for sea kayaking. The hydration system is a little expensive, but it could not be better. I think it has the best bite valve you will find. And you can turn the valve off completely if you like. The back pack can be used to hold some ditch gear if you need it.

All around its worth the money if you do a lot of open water paddling. Its no wonder it is the #1 by far life jacket among instructors at the symposiums.
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05-04-2007
Submitted by: kayakwa
Rating: 10 of 10

     Very Good Vest hands down! I am a 6'1" male around 225-40lbs depending on season and I didn't even know this was a womens vest until after I purchased it, but I have no complaints! Very Comfortable, dosen't chaff, plenty of pockets for saftey equipment and is very low profile. I actually wear this vest, that is the most important thing! I am also training with BodyBoatBlade Int. and the instructors there use the same vest, expedition ready and bulletproof this vest is great for men and women!
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10-23-2006
Submitted by: icebear
Rating: 10 of 10

     I allowed the sales person at REI to talk me into trying on this "womens" PFD. Wow. I'm a 6'2" man with a 42" chest and the large felt great inthe store so I bought it with a little trepedation. Took it for a 12 mile paddle, and forgot I had it on. 'Nuff said. I agree with a prior reviewer that I will be much less tolerant of crappy PFDs henceforth. I'm buying one for my wife.
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03-28-2005
Submitted by: ---
Rating: 10 of 10

     I'm 5'5" and female, so definitely in the shorter torso range, and this PFD fits me so well that often I forget that I have it on, including when paddling in sweltering weather. That says a lot to the good design this PFD has. The pockets are handy for many things, and my knife works well on the lash tie. I also appreciate the option of just using the clips and leaving the zip open. The only downside I've found is that I'm no longer very tolerant of wearing poorly fitting ones (like the spares on my husband's bass boat!).
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11-26-2002
Submitted by: mike_aka_tig
Rating: 10 of 10

     We spent 54 days paddling around the shoreline of Lake Powell, 1900 miles plus. In that time we experienced days above 100 and a few days below freezing. The MsFit fit both of us perfectly and didn't get in the way or be a bother. It's well made, plenty of pockets, center-opening for cooling down or taking off, and best of all, the thing doesn't ride up! The Lotus Locean drove me crazy, the Lotus rescue vests are too pricey but the MsFit...awesome! Highly recommended!
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10-03-2001
Submitted by: bnystrom
Rating: 9 of 10

     The MsFit Tour is designed as a serious touring vest for people with short torsos who want more pocket capacity than most recreational PFD's. Prior to buying one, I had been using a Lotus Lola, but was frustrated by the lack of pockets and attachment points for safety gear. Additionally, I found that the high front pad of the Lola would hit my chin when I needed to look down. I had looked at "rescue" PFD's, but was put off by the high prices and unnecessary features ("strong swimmer" harness and built-in tow belt).
The MsFit Tour solved all of these problems and then some. It has two side pockets with good capacity, but that are out of the way when paddling. It has an additional pocket in the center pocket that is perfectly sized for a VHF radio or GPS. It has a forth mesh pocket under the zippered front flap, which is ideal for keys, knife, etc. There are also the requisite key rings, attachment patches and reflective tape.

One additional feature bears mentioning. The front closure is a combination of buckles and a zippered flap. According to the Kokatat rep I spoke with, the vest is Coast Guard compliant with just the buckles fastened. This means the zipper can be left open for ventilation, which has proven to be very nice on warm days.

The arm openings are large and there is zero rubbing or chafing. The front padding is low enough to provide ample chin clearance. Perhaps the best indication the comfort of this PFD is that I forgot that I was wearing it after the first few minutes.

At $121 suggested retail, it's priced between the better recreational vests and the "rescue" vests. I find it has everything I need with nothing I don't. My gear fits in the pockets and it's exceedingly comfortable. If you're looking for a full-featured touring vest, this is one to check out.
 
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kurtyang04 离线 kurtyang04 MSFIT 成为我们漂流和海洋的主打救生衣已经是第五个年头,我的反馈


1 俩件用了200-250天,没有任何部件损坏,颜色有些退色,但还好也比较能理解通融

2 非常舒适,可能是行业里最好

3 中等尺寸的救生衣,既适合中等身材同学, L大号同学,也适合小号同学,男女都从来没有问题

4据说在水里游泳阻力相对很小,我们也测试过,没觉得衣服碍手

5, 有4个口袋,每个口袋都有D环,不但适合航海特性,而且大大减少丢器材和器材进水事故

6 有三层扣或拉链, 适合各种情形,非常可靠

7如果需要穿两件救生衣(特殊情况),这是非常好的外层救生衣

8 被很多世界最挑战的海洋探险家穿用,没有听到任何负面东西。

 唯一一点遗憾是浮力不是特别高,这个可以通过加贴心救生衣解决,浮力太大救生衣一般有其他主要问题(不舒服,游泳困难)
 
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Re: 检查我们的海洋装备---救生衣行业最高标准 ...
 
kurtyang04 离线 kurtyang04 关于潜水衣:

名牌不重要,区别不大,看此帖:

新人求教皮划艇装备问题
 
旧帖 2015-08-21 05:05:18
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Re: 检查我们的海洋装备---救生衣行业最高标准 
 
kurtyang04 离线 kurtyang04 关于干衣,看:

推荐干衣:kokatat icon
 
旧帖 2015-08-22 00:05:04
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Re: 检查我们的海洋和水上运动个人装备---救生衣行业最高 ...
 
kurtyang04 离线 kurtyang04 在alex Matthews "rough waters" 里,牛人对救生衣这样要求:

1, 浮力
2, 舒适性和合身性
3, 影响使浆性
4, 游泳性
5, 落水后是否走样变形
6, 功能性口袋
7, 醒目颜色

作为安全最重要的个人器材,救生衣是皮划艇爱好者或水上运动该投资比较重的一块
 
旧帖 2015-08-22 00:44:52
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Re: 检查我们的海洋和水上运动个人装备---救生 ...
 
kurtyang04 离线 kurtyang04 alex Matthews "rough waters" 提到这么一句:


冲浪爱好者更喜欢潜水衣(相对干衣),是因为潜水衣有保护身体作用,干衣受损风险大。

还有:

水上运动,人的小腿是薄弱一块,用长裤的潜水衣,安全功能要强大不少。
 
旧帖 2015-08-22 00:53:51
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Re: 检查我们的海洋和水上运动个人装备---救生衣行业最高 ...
 
kurtyang04 离线 kurtyang04 关于鞋:

最常见的有两种:运动凉鞋和潜水鞋

关键指标:

底要厚结实抗滑
保护脚趾

潜水鞋很多,只要底子厚,就不错, 夏天不太适合,比较适合天冷的季节。

运动凉鞋,除了冬季都很适合。

运动凉鞋,国际名牌是KEEN, TEVA, 我们经验是TEVA 性能价格比最好。

 
旧帖 2015-08-22 01:50:28
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Re: 检查我们的海洋和水上运动个人装备---救生 ...
 
kurtyang04 离线 kurtyang04 头盔:

alex Matthews "rough waters" 也说是安全器材里用得不多,但是在冲浪和石头林,强劲的洋流里,这是必须的器材。


头盔要点:确信防震和防头创伤,搁置在甲板上,以备急用。
 
旧帖 2015-08-25 23:45:48
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Re: 检查我们的海洋和皮划艇旅行个人装备---救生衣 干衣 ...
 
kurtyang04 离线 kurtyang04 手套:

蛮重要的东西, 尤其是冲浪,浪区的出发和结束,石头林的玩耍,没有手套,手受点轻伤太容易。

俩大名牌,NRS, KOKATAT

非冬天用, 划船手套,一般是非潜水衣料材料,截指手套比较常见。



冬天或寒冷地带,用潜水衣材料比较多,或者就是潜水手套。

 
旧帖 2018-09-19 14:49:08
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重在掺合彭大熊 离线 重在掺合彭大熊 就喜欢这样的技术贴,经久弥新

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