f/潜水 2010-08-07 04:56

8岁女儿准备考OW,潜水能成为家庭活动吗?

我们的旅行总是全家出动的,从最初的简单观光到各种主题的深度行,小女儿一直跑前跑后,小脚丫也从国内的大江大川延展至几个大洲,热带海滩一直是她的最爱,但也仅限于浮潜和整日酒店泳池的戏水,潜水这项成人运动似乎无法融入我们的家庭活动内容。
但女儿是能吃苦的。
4岁的贡嘎,7岁的安娜普纳south,都是自己一步一步走下来的。已经体验了Thin air, now it s time into the blue.
去年给她在小区会所报了个游泳班,随后又加入蓝鲸游泳队,感谢YMCA的专业培训,不到一年时间从旱鸭子蜕变成了小海豚,每周3次2400米的高强度训练,其中自由泳已经达到了少年运动员的标准(48s/50M)。

可我还是有些担心。
比竟潜水是一项技术运动,太多的理论对于2年级的她非常困难,语言交流也是障碍,能说华语的教练也是中英参半的夹生表述,能否通过真是心理没底。
咨询了潜店,PADI 没有儿童版,SDI倒是可以,OW Junior 限制下潜6m,成人后可以更换Adult版本。

怀着坎坷不安的心情订了个5D/4N的package, 按下鼠标支付了吉隆坡往返机票那一刻,知道一切都箭已在弦了,而靶盘却又那么模糊不清。感觉重历了9年前从租车场开出的那一刻,面对陌生的北美大陆和3000Mile的征途,手里只有一张地图和几页国家公园的宣传资料,一切梦想都在车轮的左右摸索中延展而来。

2周后开始我们的新假期,潜水,能成为家庭活动吗? 欢迎有经验的潜客们分享看法。

另哪里有可视化的视频教材或中文SDI教材,感谢分享。

shutterbbug · 2010-08-08 04:29

非常感谢楼上各位的指教,尤其是xpdiver,我了解,这其实不仅是资格的问题,年龄身体就绪的问题,更是自我心理心理就绪的问题。quote from u, more psychological, not only physical.
考虑了女儿的现状,似乎两方面都没有太大把握。她游泳水性被成熟训练,但体重只有26kg,估计气瓶都背不动。
另外上文提到的特殊器材(specially adapted slammer tanks and regulators)和医疗辅助保障在度假海滩也不一定就绪,我想先让她做个Discovery Dive, 如果她象热爱游泳一样喜欢潜水,那么就走下去。如果有紧张、恐惧,那么就继续Snorkeling. 相信大海会有向她开放的那一天。

shutterbbug · 2010-08-10 03:59

昨天在游泳池作了小测试,女儿只能够闭气潜水15M左右(1m水下水平移动),小孩子的肺活量还是太小,如果在5m水下,是否能在突发状况下闭气游回来呢?question mark.

shutterbbug · 2010-08-10 04:02

锥齿鲨提供的SSI课程索引很有启发, 和女儿玩了水下寻宝的游戏,捡围棋子。寓教于乐。这次假期决定给女儿一个小相机,让她拍拍浅水里的东西,提高她的兴趣。

shutterbbug · 2010-08-29 09:32

回来了,女儿很享受她的潜水假期,不顾及阳光的暴晒,将她能支配的每一分钟都放在海滩上,最后一天由于浪大取消了她的一潜很是沮丧,离开的时候都要流泪了。
小孩子学得比大人快,我们还跪在水底练习穿脱BCD时,她已经开始踢水巡游了。第5潜后教练和我聊天,问我是否注意到女儿在看鱼时的姿势,单Fin点地,另一个Fin在上面轻轻的平衡,这是一个AOW的姿势,她无意中做的,平衡很好。

我们和教练很注意她下潜的深度,这次最大4.8m,等女儿10岁后再潜到10m。

shutterbbug · 2010-09-02 03:53

Doyouhikey, 我下面真要做广告了。
这回找的Redang岛的Patrick, 是翻了磨坊一个老帖子, 他很细心,华语说的也好,还是个摄影爱好者,店里的照片都是他照的。不过教课他不带器材下水的。
他服务的潜店是Redang Reef,房间条件只能用可以接受来形容,不过整体环境还好,因为酒店不大,多数时间在公共区域休息,可以wireless。 酒店小有小的方便,东西可以随意放在潜店,餐厅,走到沙滩几步距离,不用背气瓶走很远。沙滩走下去10多米就有美丽的红珊瑚了,比较适合我们家庭方式。
Tina 是我们的另一个教练,开始我还以为也是游客,不过她现在已经投身潜水行业了。很细心得带我们女儿,白天水里教课,晚上还陪女儿作潜水日志,教她识别各种鱼,女儿将她的潜水日志变成了图画本,各种鱼画得花花绿绿的。Tina一直很耐心陪伴,女儿叫她兔子姐姐。

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黑木墩 2010-08-07 05:32

全家有一致的兴趣爱好是件幸事!

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divejy 2010-08-07 05:49

SDI 是有繁簡教材的,向潛店要求吧

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manggo365 2010-08-07 06:20

PADI-8岁的是Seal Team,只能在泳池。
10岁是junior深度是12m

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锥齿鲨 2010-08-07 14:49

我女儿12岁了,个子很大。

当初,我考了潜水长是为了以后她考潜水牌的时候可以成为助教。但当我找资料给她的时候(2年前),我发现有一些资料(还没有数据支持)说氮气也许会影响发育。所以,到今天还没带她下水。

8岁可以考虑 SSI 的 Scuba Ranger (http://www.divessi.com/scubarangers),但每次下水需要教练陪伴。SSI 做这种年纪的课程自然有他们的道理。

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yueyututu 2010-08-07 15:14

10岁可以青少年潜水员。8岁可以海豹队:)

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Amylin 2010-08-07 15:46

PADI的最小年齡可受訓的年齡是8歲,
有兒童專門的潛水體驗==>泡泡小勇士,須年滿8歲,平靜開放水域不超過2米
有兒童專門的潛水訓練
==>海豹隊隊員seal team,必須完成水中任務1-5,最深不超過四米
==>海豹隊隊長,除了水中任務1-5之外,還要完成10個水中專長,並且具備拆裝組合裝備的能力

我想讓小朋友循序漸進的接觸潛水,產生興趣,樂於接觸海洋世界,是件很幸福的事情!!
祝有個愉快的假期

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xpdiver 2010-08-07 16:55

以下是DAN (Divers Alert Network) 对儿童潜水的意见,很值得参考。 DAN 相信是国际上最权威的潜水医疗和安全科研机构,和国际潜水训练和发证组织无关连。


CHILDREN DIVING

Question:
My 11 and a half year old son is just about to embark on his PADI open water training and I remembered reading an article about young divers and the possibility of nitrogen absorption affecting the growth platelets in the bones of young divers. Could you please email me any information you have about this or refer me to the article? I am really looking for a maximum depth recommendation.

Answer:
This is a hot issue currently. I attach herebelow two opinions, the first from Dr. Peter Germonpre. the second is of mine.
Besides the slight disagreement on the age, these two opinions represent the current situation of thgis controversy.

From Dr. Peter Germonpre
Medically, we can not encourage youngsters to dive below the age of approximately 14 years. This is mainly due to psychological reasons, not physical. In sudden instances of stress, the behaviour of children is ALWAYS unpredictable, which may result in uncontrolled ascent - which can cause pulmonary barotrauma from even 3 meters - or drowning.
The influence of compressed air breathing and decompression from shallow dives is still largely debated, as some suspicion still remains as to possible injury to the growth disc of long bones, as well as to the higher risk of ear barotrauma and lung barotrauma due to immature organ systems.
Many dive clubs are now offering SCUBA training for young children. The more "reliable" ones have an almost 1:1 pupil/instructor ratio, have specially adapted slammer tanks and regulators, have a solid medical follow-up both at the start of the "diving year" as well as during the season, and have only a few, very strictly supervised, shallow open-water dive trips per year. These trainings are more aimed at teaching self-confidence and body control, than to teach the young person how to dive.

From Dr. A Marroni

The issue of children and diving is an emotional one, with little scientifically significant evidence.

Currently the "American" agencies have agreed on the limit of 10 to 12 years, while the new Junior program of CMAS set the minimum age limit at 8 years. Medically speaking there have been several authors pointing at the potential risk of bubbles impairing the bone growth, if the growth cartilage is affected. This is the reason for the relatively strict depth limits imposed by CMAS ( LESS THAN 10 METERS)

However this issue has never been demonstrated. Others have suggested body size limits ( 145 cm and 40 kg approximately ), but this could be problematic even with some small frame adults. As a consequence it has been suggested that a reasonable limit could be reaching 90% of the estimated growth for that person, but even this is subject to interpretation.

The major concern regards emotional maturity and the possibility of emotional break-down and panic in stressful conditions.

Another issue about which many are concerned is how far it is the child who REALLY wants to dive or it is the "diving-addict" parent who is forcing and conditioning the child.

I have personal experience of many many children who have been taught diving in a very early age (as young as 4 years, even if at extremely limited depth, such as 2-3 meters max), now many years ago, who are now enthusiastic, helathy and VERY SAFE divers.

This is a matter where there is no absolute truth, I believe, and where common sense and extreme caution should apply.

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非常感谢楼上各位的指教,尤其是xpdiver,我了解,这其实不仅是资格的问题,年龄身体就绪的问题,更是自我心理心理就绪的问题。quote from u, more psychological, not only physical. 考虑了女…

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哈欠mm shutterbbug 2010-08-08 07:06

才8岁,早着呢,以后大把时间可以玩,没必要现在这么着急开始

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海豚儿 哈欠mm 2010-08-09 03:51

同感~~~

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火毛毛 2010-08-09 04:14

建议先 free dive,锻炼小家伙水性,从free dive过渡到水肺很容易的。

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海欢 2010-08-09 05:33

希望小姑娘加油。

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yueyututu 2010-08-09 05:58

wo zen me bu ke yi da zhong wen? ni dao le malaysia, da wo dian hua:016-6222365:)

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Kelvin@sea 2010-08-09 06:33

自己骨肉,不能看那些ABCD,EFGH
我自己的标准,到正常身高90%才潜,最深5M,到95%才潜入深处。
是根据XP引的
as some suspicion still remains as to possible injury to the growth disc of long bones

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abbymok 2010-08-10 03:45

LZ女儿很厉害!

潜水当然可以成为家庭活动! 我也打算让我女儿学潜水........不过.......还是放慢脚步比较好~呵~

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shutterbbug OP 2010-08-10 03:59 置顶
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昨天在游泳池作了小测试,女儿只能够闭气潜水15M左右(1m水下水平移动),小孩子的肺活量还是太小,如果在5m水下,是否能在突发状况下闭气游回来呢?question mark.

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北海88688 shutterbbug 2010-08-31 02:33

你家公主太厉害了!
我也挺喜欢游泳的,但闭气潜水怎么潜也就2~3米。请问你们是怎么练的?

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飞天猪古力 北海88688 2010-09-12 12:21

首先至少得把动作游标准
否则五米也免谈

呼吸调息这些,动作标准了自然容易调整

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xpdiver 2010-08-10 04:52

潜水当然能成为家庭活动,但总结以上的看法,个人也觉得不宜操之过急。 反正潜水这活动沒竞技性、体力要求不高,可以玩很多年的。 而你女儿体重才26kg,看来现在就学潜水真的是太早了。

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shutterbbug OP 2010-08-10 05:56

谢谢xpdiver, 是要从长计议。

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Kelvin@sea shutterbbug 2010-08-10 08:30

啊,原来你玩paragliding的,果然虎父无犬女,有没有把她带上天啊?

我自己都是教练,我的小男孩已经11岁1.58高,都未带他下水。潜水家庭日,我潜水时是他的打游戏机时间或者浮潜时间,我的surface interval是家庭玩徒手潜水时间。慢慢来吧。

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Nemo.YI 2010-08-10 12:34

可以学,但只能泳池里,全家一起泳池里潜水,很是温馨啊。

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doyouhikey 2010-08-26 04:34

那么点小孩,不用这么着急吧。随便玩玩呗。中国小孩真可怜……都是被家长搞这搞那的,完全没自我。
不是说lz啊,你得考虑小孩的身体情况吧。
另外,lz不会是做广告的吧?

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manggo365 2010-08-26 07:19

楼上的,你会不会想太多了?

那么全部磨房会员不发表任何意见,好不好?

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doyouhikey 2010-08-26 13:42

这跟大家发不发表意见有什么因果关系?
你针对的是我说lz拔苗助长呢还是说lz在做广告?
如果是前者,8岁的小孩,正是快乐玩的年纪,家长自己都疑惑的事情何必要去冒险?小孩玩她喜欢的就好了。小孩多体验就好了,干嘛要用什么什么标准量化一下,家长说出来很显摆很证明自己吗?
如果是后者,他可以不带标牌的说一下就可以了,何必要把什么培训的名号都说出来还感谢?